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PostSubject: How many elephants   Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:28 am

How many elephants must there be in a room before anybody notices?
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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:58 am

they seem to change everything, huh?

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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:10 am

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are you talking about (mis-)education?


besides, this wishing well works:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22919940



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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:00 pm

One. It always takes one to make a difference.
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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:57 am

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yup.




so let's go to the 'always' and see what transpires this time .....


http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/39th_G8_summit







gotcha?







p.s. seems only human ....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/australia-culture-blog/2013/may/29/julia-gillard-dothraki-language
.... also to the newest member of this forum?
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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:55 am

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qx7R43-LQM


are we taking time to listen?

(news coverage on another forum.)




interaction defunct?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23141473
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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:41 am







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just giving this a dedication ...... no expiry date tho.
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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:38 pm

I got 26 elephants here


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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:07 am




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http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/03/05/1321543111



http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2014/03/11/3960396.htm
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Elephants tell human friend from foe by voice

Tuesday, 11 March 2014 Bianca Nogrady
ABC
Elephant

Elephants use human voice cues to determine not only ethnicity of humans, but also finer-scaled differences in gender and age(Source: hardholdt/iStockphoto)
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Elephants are able to distinguish between friendly humans and those more likely to pose a threat, based solely on vocal cues, new research shows.

The study, published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, examines the extent to which African elephants use human voice cues to determine not only ethnicity, but also finer-scaled differences in gender and age.

The team of researchers from the UK and Kenya studied 47 different elephant family groups living in the Amboseli National Park.

Humans pose the most significant threat, other than lions, to elephants living in this area, but different ethnic groups pose different levels of danger.

"Maasai pastoralists periodically come into contact with elephants over access to water and grazing for their cattle, and this sometimes results in elephants being speared, particularly in retaliation when Maasai lives have been lost," write the authors.

"In contrast, Kamba men, with more agricultural lifestyles, do not typically pose a significant threat to elephants within the National Park, and where conflict occurs outside over crop raiding, this largely involves male rather than female elephants."

Past research has shown that elephants showed a greater fear reaction to garments worn by Maasai men, and their typically red-coloured fabric, than those worn by the Kamba.

In this study, the researchers were able to demonstrate that the elephants could reliably discriminate between ethnic and age groups based on their response to voice recordings from Maasai and Kamba men, women and boys.

When the elephants heard the playback of Maasai adult males, they behaved much more defensively, with more investigative smelling, bunching and retreating, than when they heard Kamba voices.

They also reacted more strongly to adult males than to adult females or to young male voices.

The elephants were even able to distinguish the original sex of the speaker when the voices were digitally altered to resemble the acoustics of the opposite gender.

McComb says this kind of resynthesising was sophisticated enough to fool the human ear, but the fact that the elephants could still pick and respond to the original gender of the voice suggested they were using different acoustic cues to characterise the speaker.

"They're very good at making these distinctions, which are very important to them when it comes to ultimately to survival and reproductive success," says McComb, professor of animal behaviour and cognition University of Sussex.

Another finding from the study is that older matriarch elephants are better at distinguishing the true level of threat and so reacted less to the voices of young Maasai boys than did younger matriarchs.

"In our previous work, we had found both in the social domain and when we did experiments with lion playbacks, families with older matriarchs were actually better at pin-pointing the most threatening situations," says McComb.

The researchers also noted quite different defensive behaviour in this study compared to previous studies involving playbacks of lion roars.

"Elephants very rarely attempted to approach when faced with human stimuli; instead, reactions involving defensive bunching, retreats and investigative smelling were much more common," the authors wrote.

"Whereas an aggressive mobbing response can prove very effective in driving off lions, it is unlikely to success against humans armed with spears and would instead put the family group in great danger."

The authors say the findings should prompt similar studies in other animals that have a long history of co-existence with humans.
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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:08 pm

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PostSubject: The Elephant and the Dog   Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:49 am

ONCE upon a time a Dog used to go into the stable where the king's Elephant lived. At first the Dog went there to get the food that was left after the Elephant had finished eating.

Day after day the Dog went to the stable, waiting around for bits to eat. But by and by the Elephant and the Dog came to be great friends. Then the Elephant began to share his food with the Dog, and they ate together. When the Elephant slept, his friend the Dog slept beside him. When the Elephant felt like playing, he would catch the Dog in his trunk and swing him to and fro. Neither the Dog nor the Elephant was quite happy unless the other was near-by.

One day a farmer saw the Dog and said to the Elephant-keeper: "I will buy that Dog. He looks good-tempered, and I see that he is smart. How much do you want for the Dog?"

The Elephant-keeper did not care for the Dog, and he did want some money just then. So he asked a fair price, and the farmer paid it and took the Dog away to the country.

The king's Elephant missed the Dog and did not care to eat when his friend was not there to share the food. When the time came for the Elephant to bathe, he would not bathe. The next day again the Elephant would not eat, and he would not bathe. The third day, when the Elephant would neither eat nor bathe, the king was told about it.

The king sent for his chief servant, saying, "Go to the stable and find out why the Elephant is acting in this way."

The chief servant went to the stable and looked the Elephant all over. Then he said to the Elephant-keeper: "There seems to be nothing the matter with this Elephant's body, but why does he look so sad? Has he lost a play-mate?"

"Yes," said the keeper, "there was a Dog who ate and slept and played with the Elephant. The Dog went away three days ago."

"Do you know where the Dog is now?" asked the chief servant.

"No, I do not," said the keeper.

Then the chief servant went back to the king and said. "The Elephant is not sick, but he is lonely without his friend, the Dog."

"Where is the Dog?" asked the king.

"A farmer took him away, so the Elephant-keeper says," said the chief servant. "No one knows where the farmer lives."

"Very well," said the king. "I will send word all over the country, asking the man who bought this Dog to turn him loose. I will give him back as much as he paid for the Dog."

When the farmer who had bought the Dog heard this, he turned him loose. The Dog ran back as fast as ever he could go to the Elephant's stable. The Elephant was so glad to see the Dog that he picked him up with his trunk and put him on his head. Then he put him down again.

When the Elephant-keeper brought food, the Elephant watched the Dog as he ate, and then took his own food.

All the rest of their lives the Elephant and the Dog lived together.



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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:59 pm


"The Great Beyond"

I've watched the stars fall silent from your eyes
All the sights that I have seen
I can't believe that I believed I wished
That you could see
There's a new planet in the solar system
There is nothing up my sleeve

I'm pushing an elephant up the stairs
I'm tossing up punch lines that were never there
Over my shoulder a piano falls
Crashing to the ground

In all this talk of time
Talk is fine
But I don't want to stay around
Why can't we pantomime, just close our eyes
And sleep sweet dreams
Me and you with wings on our feet

I'm pushing an elephant up the stairs
I'm tossing up punch lines that were never there
Over my shoulder a piano falls
Crashing to the ground

I'm breaking through
I'm bending spoons
I'm keeping flowers in full bloom
I'm looking for answers from the great beyond

I want the hummingbirds, the dancing bears
Sweetest dreams of you
I Look into the stars
I Look into the moon

I'm pushing an elephant up the stairs
I'm tossing up punch lines that were never there
Over my shoulder a piano falls
Crashing to the ground

I'm breaking through
I'm bending spoons
I'm keeping flowers in full bloom
I'm looking for answers from the great beyond

I'm breaking through
I'm bending spoons
I'm keeping flowers in full bloom
I'm looking for answers from the great
Answers from the great, answers

I'm breaking through
I'm bending spoons
I'm keeping flowers in full bloom
I'm looking for answers from the great beyond

I'm breaking through
I'm bending spoons
I'm keeping flowers in full bloom
I'm looking for answers from the great
Answers from the great, answers

I'm breaking through
I'm bending spoons
I'm keeping flowers in full bloom
I'm looking for answers from the great beyond










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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:23 am

another few elephants on the way
relativity revised so that it actually works mathematically
the big bang renamed the big unwind
the centrifugal force explained

losing count of the number of elephants now
stay tuned for the next episode of

... humanity believes the voice of authority without thinking logically ...

hoo boy,
what a beautiful burden is carried
when a spark of truth
lights up the world of unthinking darkness

it gets scary
all this light
like lucifer they tell me
i should be running from the bright

and yet
i add it up
i sum it together

and people are easily lulled
into a blind self-infused terror

the humble truth of reason
lifts itself on its own pedestal of treason
on proudly boasts of its own spring season

and truth
marches on
whilst the lies wither in its shade
mumbling that it is not humbling
their dastardly charade...

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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:08 am


Fludgers wrote:
fake
http://dissidentsphilosophy.alldiscussion.net/t203-elephant-painting



talk about short-lived longevity ....

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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:40 am

this is more like a Brontosaurus than an elephant

http://www.flight-light-and-spin.com/relativity-revised.htm

hell, i'm so high after doing this
i've got no use for marijuana any more

its like i'm walking on a beam of light
balancing on a photon

and i still keep finding more and more reasons
to stick with my analysis
too many to mention at this point
i'm building a list of the reasons
its too much - like how can i describe it?

its like the whole world is building a puzzle
and i'm the only one who can see what the picture is supposed to look like

its terribly enlightening
and yet somewhat lonely

and still
the tendency for people to keep pecking at the seeds on the ground
and ignore the loop-de-loops i'm flying

just leaves me

 bounce 

i can hardly contain myself
i don't even feel angry at ignorance any longer

God bless you all.
Especially Lavender & Mayflow

You 2 are even more special than relativity
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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:44 pm



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PostSubject: Re: How many elephants   Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:00 am

well, its a herd of the Apatosaurus then
it seems like Albert's theory
is the Brontosaurus.

Tho, the spellchecker thinks Apatosaurus is the fake, while it is quite
happy with the Brontosaurus.

Methinks some academics are paid to quibble over words


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