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PostSubject: Essence of Mind   Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:34 pm

ESSENCE OF MIND

The essence of mind is somewhat difficult to explain, so we look at it from the
negative point of view, that is, what mind is not. First of all, we see that it is not
something which arises or ceases or abides. It is free of these three things.
From beginningless time, there is no arising, no cessation and no abiding in terms of
staying in one place, not moving, or not changing. It is completely free of all three of
these.

It is also free of being a thing or a substance composed of particles.
The essential entity, or substance, of mind is not something that can be defiled or
stained by grasping at subject and object.
It is completely free of the stains from those activities.

Further, when we look at the essential substance of mind,
we find that no matter how much we search for it,
no matter how much we analyze it, there is no thing there to be found.
There is no entity that we can come up with by searching, evaluating, and analyzing.
No matter how much we seek for its essential substance, we cannot find it. The
searcher, the one who does the search for essential substance of mind, cannot find it.
Therefore it is said that the essential substance of mind itself is emptiness.

by: The Practice of Mahamudra by Drikung Kyabgon Chetsang Rinpoche, page 48.


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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:07 pm

could you kindly check that link once more before having it confuse the issue even further?

http://www.unification.net/ws/theme022.htm

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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:31 am

Yeah, sorry about that - it was a link to something in my email inbox. That does not work I see now.
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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:07 am

Mayflow wrote:
ESSENCE OF MIND

The essence of mind is somewhat difficult to explain, so we look at it from the negative point of view, that is, what mind is not. First of all, we see that it is not something which arises or ceases or abides. It is free of these three things. From beginningless time, there is no arising, no cessation and no abiding in terms of staying in one place, not moving, or not changing. It is completely free of all three of these.

It is also free of being a thing or a substance composed of particles. The essential entity, or substance, of mind is not something that can be defiled or stained by grasping at subject and object. It is completely free of the stains from those activities.

Further, when we look at the essential substance of mind, we find that no matter how much we search for it, no matter how much we analyze it, there is no thing there to be found. There is no entity that we can come up with by searching, evaluating, and analyzing. No matter how much we seek for its essential substance, we cannot find it. The searcher, the one who does the search for essential substance of mind, cannot find it. Therefore it is said that the essential substance of mind itself is emptiness.

by: The Practice of Mahamudra by Drikung Kyabgon Chetsang Rinpoche, page 48.

Mind is independent of the physical universe.
Mind has calculated that our universe has more than 3 physical dimensions.
So Mind itself must have at least more than three dimensions.

Can a two dimensional object contain within it, a three dimensional object?
No! It certainly cannot!
So how can a mind think in four dimensions if it is contained within a three dimensional 'brain'?
No! It CANNOT!

So Mind HAS to be greater than the 3-dimensional brain!
Dammit!
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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Sun Aug 11, 2013 8:48 am

Jonathan Ainsley Bain wrote:
Mayflow wrote:
ESSENCE OF MIND

The essence of mind is somewhat difficult to explain, so we look at it from the negative point of view, that is, what mind is not. First of all, we see that it is not something which arises or ceases or abides. It is free of these three things. From beginningless time, there is no arising, no cessation and no abiding in terms of staying in one place, not moving, or not changing. It is completely free of all three of these.

It is also free of being a thing or a substance composed of particles. The essential entity, or substance, of mind is not something that can be defiled or stained by grasping at subject and object. It is completely free of the stains from those activities.

Further, when we look at the essential substance of mind, we find that no matter how much we search for it, no matter how much we analyze it, there is no thing there to be found. There is no entity that we can come up with by searching, evaluating, and analyzing. No matter how much we seek for its essential substance, we cannot find it. The searcher, the one who does the search for essential substance of mind, cannot find it. Therefore it is said that the essential substance of mind itself is emptiness.

by: The Practice of Mahamudra by Drikung Kyabgon Chetsang Rinpoche, page 48.

Mind is independent of the physical universe.
Mind has calculated that our universe has more than 3 physical dimensions.
So Mind itself must have at least more than three dimensions.

Can a two dimensional object contain within it, a three dimensional object?
No! It certainly cannot!
So how can a mind think in four dimensions if it is contained within a three dimensional 'brain'?
No! It CANNOT!

So Mind HAS to be greater than the 3-dimensional brain!
Dammit!

independent essences? *eyes bulging*
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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:04 am

Now how long will that idea take to filter through into the common print media via someone else?
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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:18 am




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good question:

which regions of your brain would you access to find the answers?






how was your memory composed? who contributed to such?


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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:22 am

Quote :
which regions of your brain would you access to find the answers?
missed the point dear girl!

The answers being multi-dimensional are outside the 3-d brain.
Our being is mostly outside the 3-d universe.
The 'brain' is just a surface feature, much like the pixels on a computer screen.

To the casual observer, it may appear that the pixels on your computer screen
contain the actual decision-making process.

To the primitive, the TV set holds little homonoculi as if its a puppet show.

The satellite is beyond the 2-d surface of the screen in much the same way.

Our Soul is a 4-d object at the very least.
Trying to understand the 'brain' is like pulling apart a TV screen
to try and figure out what show is going to be broadcast next week.

Look within yourself!
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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:34 pm

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh-Effekt

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missed the point dear girl!
there's hardly ever any one point to miss.




cat and dog might also spark ordinary thoughts about hair coloring et.al.

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To the casual observer, it may appear that the pixels on your computer screen
contain the actual decision-making process.

To the primitive, the TV set holds little homonoculi as if its a puppet show.
indeed, just going through the prism of casualties ....






http://www.spiegel.de/reise/europa/finnmark-in-norwegen-land-der-samen-und-rentiere-a-917019.html



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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:19 am

the real question to put to those that ask which part of the brain i used
would be
at which point in your personal narrative did they make the
decision to attribute thought exclusively to brain?

chances are, that the materialist has forgotten
or represses the point when they made the attribution
certainly no logical or empirical argument can be considered,
just a moment of despair, most likely a tragic death

the logic remains, that the mind has more dimensions than the brain ---

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PostSubject: Re: Essence of Mind   Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:05 am

Jonathan Ainsley Bain wrote:
the real question to put to those that ask which part of the brain i used
would be
at which point in your personal narrative did they make the
decision to attribute thought exclusively to brain?

chances are, that the materialist has forgotten
or represses the point when they made the attribution
certainly no logical or empirical argument can be considered,
just a moment of despair, most likely a tragic death

the logic remains, that the mind has more dimensions than the brain ---

;-j
which regions of your brain would you access to find the answers?

impeccable.
too long the moment of despair*.

seems like "this is as far as it goes ...."

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