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Guest Guest
| Subject: On May's birthday - Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:32 pm | |
| Well, hope your birthday was an enjoyable one, May, and that this forum evolves along with your vision Dada : ) |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on may's birthday Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:18 am | |
| Happy birthday Mayflow You are awesome Maybe some day you will let me know how old you are I am curious Yours and my interests overlap I was wondering how long it took you to get a handle on wisdom and the "path" Also what attracted you to the path? | |
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Mayflow Starfleet Commander
Posts : 341 Join date : 2009-05-20
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:33 am | |
| Hey, thanks so much my friends and fellow tavelers! I'll have to take some time to think over how my path has developed. I usually don't think too much about it consciously but just go with intuition and following my Bliss. I'll sit down and write something out here one day soon. Smiles and cheers for everyone on the house! | |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:13 pm | |
| Thank's for letting me know DaDA, I like knowing. Then he is one year my senior. I just turned 46 myself. May & I are both INFP, zodiac cancer, enneagram #9, & numerically a 22, Cool. Again thanks. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:55 pm | |
| - lightsun wrote:
- Thank's for letting me know DaDA, I like knowing.
Then he is one year my senior. I just turned 46 myself. May & I are both INFP, zodiac cancer, enneagram #9, & numerically a 22, Cool. Again thanks. No problem Light. That's odd. An interesting age when one redresses life, or continues the excitement of expansion. What are your differences, do you think? Have you spotted any? ( May knows my numerological number better than I, and that is apt.)-D |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:17 pm | |
| May probably has more of a sense of humor than I do. May also is more lighthearted as well. I'm more serious. Nonetheless on another site I was mixed up with and mistaken for Mayflow, so there are definitely similarities as well as similar interests. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:50 am | |
| - lightsun wrote:
- May probably has more of a sense of humor than I do.
May also is more lighthearted as well. I'm more serious. I agree this is true. May has more of an ability with ti wordplay. Do you view your life as a serious event? |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:02 am | |
| To answer seriously. I grew up in a dysfunctional family. I have had a lifetime of trying to heal. I look at the bright side of life & it's many various opportunities for both growth and happiness. I don't like to dwell on the dark side of things. On another site called similarminds.com I was and am a proponent of my non negative energy theory & philosophy and way of living. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:18 am | |
| - lightsun wrote:
- To answer seriously.
I grew up in a dysfunctional family. I have had a lifetime of trying to heal. I look at the bright side of life & it's many various opportunities for both growth and happiness. I don't like to dwell on the dark side of things. On another site called similarminds.com I was and am a proponent of my non negative energy theory & philosophy and way of living. Light, I terms of optimism, there is much to be gained from a dysfunctional early life. The experience contributes to what you are now. So you may thank your family for your insight and what you uniquely are. I grew up in a dysfunctional family also. I have observed that balanced homes often produce 'blind' children incapable of understanding the situation of others. |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:30 am | |
| There is an element of truth in what you say I think & feel I may have more empathy for others, based on my own experiences. Also in my growing and correcting my mistakes, I develop insights. My empathy grows as my understanding of myself grows. If a person has not suffered they may not have understanding, patience, or empathy for those more downtrodden. It is, or may be a cruel irony, that to be more human and caring, one has to suffer. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:42 am | |
| - lightsun wrote:
- There is an element of truth in what you say
I think & feel I may have more empathy for others, based on my own experiences. Also in my growing and correcting my mistakes, I develop insights. My empathy grows as my understanding of myself grows. If a person has not suffered they may not have understanding, patience, or empathy for those more downtrodden. It is, or may be a cruel irony, that to be more human and caring, one has to suffer. It is a common mistake to misview applied thought for empathy. The bulk of people do not bother to think at all. Their lives revolve around the consumption of goods and the relief of boredom. |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:51 am | |
| I believe insight is a gift. Empathy is also a "divine" gift. The two mixed together help provide me with wisdom. Also with wisdom comes critical thought, reasoning, & reflection. True analytical reasoning. True reflection. Having an open mind and open heart. DaDA, what to you constitutes wisdom. Also how does one become more wise. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:43 am | |
| - lightsun wrote:
- I believe insight is a gift. Empathy is also a "divine" gift.
The two mixed together help provide me with wisdom. Also with wisdom comes critical thought, reasoning, & reflection. True analytical reasoning. True reflection. Having an open mind and open heart. DaDA, what to you constitutes wisdom. Also how does one become more wise. Then we disagree. Insight is the ability to apply intelligent speculation to observation - to bring ones whole to conjecture. Wisdom first involves the abandonment of ego. |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May"s birthday Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:11 am | |
| I agree with both of your statements, except your use of the word "first" I believe developing wisdom does involve transcending one's ego, however it is a continual process. The way you describe ego, I would use the term enlightenment,as a more end result. I believe we evolve our wisdom in our journey & path in life. We slowly develop more & more wisdom through our continual insights that we develop on our journey. | |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:41 am | |
| I also believe that many people have both wisdom and insights to share. And this still with them still having an "ego" manifest. | |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:50 am | |
| One can not share enlightenment. Only the love, wisdom, and insights that come from enlightenment. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:15 pm | |
| Enlightenment? This suggests more gain than loss. Semantics? Definition and semantics - how much do they matter? A ton, because the prelude to any communication is the settlement of terms...(when my workload is exhausted, this might be interesting to explore in Communications Arts. Wouldn't it be constructive to keep the flaming thread bare. A bloody waste of time. : ) Yes, I agree - you're right - it's incremental - that was a sweeping statement referring only to the correlation - the link between the two, but I consider it an initial step (by degree because one must first have the clarity to recognize the truth. ( Difficult too. Can't say I've achieved it to a great extent. ) What about you? How far along the path to enlightenment do you think you are? Well, Light, I shall have to break loose soon. If I get too serious, I become morbid. My dysfunctional family left me with an appreciation for the absurd. This in any terms is a gift. Wisdom additionally involves the navigation of ones foibles ; ) |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's brthday Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:13 pm | |
| (Sometimes) I think and really feel that we are all caught in our own purgatory of experience, and that unfortunately we can't break out. "We have to play the hands we are a dealt". A quote from a friend on the site where I met Mayflow. We don't change so much as grow & evolve. Again the semantics. And we can evolve only so much and in incremental steps. For us to raise enlightened children will entail a paradigm shift in how we raise, nurture, and educate our children. Having children being raised by unlearned and people who do not know how to raise kids, will not produce beings capable of enlightenment. They will spend their whole lives trying to heal and undo the damage caused by childhood. I believe we all have possibly a seed of enlightenment. But we have to be raised right for it to nurture and be developed. This entails allowing ourselves to come into our own being. Without mixed signals, and distorted thinking, and lack of love being shown. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:42 am | |
| - lightsun wrote:
- (Sometimes) I think and really feel that we are all caught in our own purgatory of
experience, and that unfortunately we can't break out.
A quote from a friend on the site where I met Mayflow.
Hi Light, That was a reference to that exact moment. A warning that I might post a joke. "We have to play the hands we are a dealt". Hmm, not so. The score can be rewritten. Why don't you celebrate what you presently are, Light. Embrace life, get on with it. |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:47 am | |
| Believe me I do the best I can. I march forward into the future. I will endeavor to be all I can be. I am lucky. I have found someone who I can communicate with and who understands me. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:50 am | |
| Have courage, kiddo. That's more than I have ever done. |
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:57 am | |
| Well thanks I wish you well. You mentioned a dysfunctional family. I do not know the extent of it, but it is hard. Extremely hard. I could say that it is not fair. But there is no fairness in the universe, it just is. The universe does not make judgment statement of right or wrong. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:46 pm | |
| - lightsun wrote:
- Well thanks I wish you well.
You mentioned a dysfunctional family. I do not know the extent of it, but it is hard. Extremely hard. I could say that it is not fair. But there is no fairness in the universe, it just is. The universe does not make judgment statement of right or wrong. Hey Light - back at you. Regarding the universe, my current view is // -, so I would have to concur... D
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| Subject: Re: On May's birthday - Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:18 pm | |
| - Admin wrote:
- DaDA wrote:
- Have courage, kiddo. That's more than I have ever done.
I think you communicate quite well, DaDA! - You are more difficult I should think for most to comprehend as you have the courage you benevolently wish for LightSun. It's an uncommon courage I think. I'll admit that when you write stuff, I often have to take the stuff to my nest like a little birdie may take a piece of earth into it's nest and study it for a while and come out understanding the Universe a little more thoroughly.
https://exploringyourmind.rpg-board.net/short-story-section-f23/the-ancient-tree-t55.htm
Dear Admin Thanks. Regarding your first statement - Yes, I'm a strong lady, but as a consequence of using e 8 coping mechanisms, it's almost impossible for me to deal with any degree of vunerability. This is the lesson I must face now, because resistance to vunerability (as I'm certain you comprehend) is a weakness in itself. Strength truly comes from the ability to lay oneself open and ride any storms. Re Light - and the e 9 coping mechanisms - the problem is more recognizing and learning to deal with ones own (submerged) anger. The conflict arises ( as Light has stated - it is hard to shake ) because a 9 seeks a world view that is anger free. I read the story of Ancient Tree, and had some comments which I will post there I enjoyed the conversation with T-Lady also...note on this,,, All of this is relevant to your deepest desire to discuss and understand and illuminate on the subject of "communications" - It's a HUGE subject, DaDA! SmileYes, it is, and for most I've observed manipulative techniques in marketing, so the approach will be converse .
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lightsun Ocean crosser
Posts : 1299 Join date : 2009-06-20 Location : Gaia
| Subject: on May's birthday Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:36 am | |
| To both Mayflow and DaDA and all the forum. This has been an interesting thread for me. Yes I have used (and I am borrowing from Romana as well) the analogy of not fighting reality. To be one with Tao. It is all well and good to have dreams and goals, however the universe might have different plans for you. It is like steering a boat in the river of life. All we can do is steer. We can not control. More so to try and control is to go against the universe and yourself. One must learn to let go of that which we can't control. This is hard. Hard but necessary for peace, harmony, & balance. | |
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