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PostSubject: Do you know a back-handspring?   Do you know a back-handspring? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 13, 2009 1:41 pm

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    Do you know a back-handspring?
Setting: Gymnasium.
Characters: Annika, Vera, Nadia, Olga, Larissa, and Bela are gymnasts. Miss Károlyi is their coach.



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Olga: Do you know a back-handspring?
Nadia: I can do a quadruple-back-handspring.
Vera: That's impossible.
Annika: It's real.
Vera: Evidence?
Olga: La la!
Vera: You're a monkey!
Olga: Monkey see, monkey do.
Annika: [to Vera] You could if you would but you won't so you can't.
Vera: You're talking out of your leotard.
Nadia: I pull quadruple-back-fulls all the time.


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Larissa: I've seen it.
Vera: I haven't.
Larissa: I have. Seeing is believing.
Annika: Sort of...
Olga: Wires!
Larissa: It wasn't at the circus. It was at Nationals!


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Larrisa: Here is a very excellent description, with diagram. I quote, "Start with a short run and end it with a skip or skuff on the right-foot, as weight goes forward on left-foot whip arms down fast, crossing right over left, bend at the waist, not at the shoulders, the hands should be almost together, this immediate twist of the upper body gives faster and closer turn and snap down, feet should be together in inverted position, keep elbows straight throughout, get a good shoulder push for the snap down, land flat-footed, facing the starting position, with arms up."...
Vera: So?
Larissa: It's from the E - G - C. European Gymnastics Committee.
Vera: You're from the E - G - C! You're from the moon!
Larissa: I'm from my mama. And my mama told me she saw a quadruple-back.
Olga: My mama told me you're a Hippopotamus.
Larissa: She said: Minsk, '82, third-round floor, open, Nastia Liukin --
Vera: Shoosh!


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Annika: Where's Miss K?
Olga: Can Miss K do back-quads?
Vera: She's with Bela doing bars. Why?
Annika: Miss Károlyi! Miss Károlyi!
Miss Károlyi: Yes? What is it?
Vera: Miss Károlyi, these girls say there is such-a-thing as a quad-back-handspring; but I say: no, that's impossible!
Nadia: That's my usual warm-up!
Vera: Yeah right!
Larissa: Oh Miss Károlyi! Tell her it's so!
Annika: Teach us a back-quadruple-handspring Miss Károlyi!
Miss Károlyi: Girls, do you really want to know a back-quadruple-handspring?
Vera: No way! I won't even try!
Miss Károlyi: My God girls...


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    1992
Announcer: Score from judge from Poland?
Judge from Poland: Dziesięć.
Announcer: Score from judge from USA?
Judge from USA: Nine.


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Olga: Woo!
Annika: He he!
Nadia: You stuck that back-quad girl!
Vera: Now I know.
Larissa: Wow. She did it Márta!
Miss Károlyi: That's right girls. You can't just believe everything people say. You have to believe in yourself.

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PostSubject: Re: Do you know a back-handspring?   Do you know a back-handspring? Icon_minitimeMon Jul 13, 2009 1:43 pm

Mental Gymnastics.

Vera is the scientist, and egoist: only evidence will satisfy her inquiry. Larissa is authoritarian knowledge. Olga is volatility in general. Nadia is mystic-belief. Bela is the perfect subject-object, her part is purely action, she has no lines and no character. Annika is me.

Miss Károlyi is Márta Károlyi. Annika is Annika Reeder, Nadia is Nadia Comăneci, etc.

Back-handspring is obviously God. The girl can say that she "knows" a back-handspring, not when she has objective evidence supplied by authorities, but first person experience with the thing.

The extreme understatement of little girls bragging about gymnastics suits a joke on both arguing about God, and also on the high seriousness that God is treated with.

The metaphysical and the moral unite at the end, when Vera wins in '92 (this is physically impossible, Věra Čáslavská was fifty years old at this date).

Seeing a back-handspring is not sufficient to say "I know a back-handspring" in the sense that Olga asks the question in the first line. What is the difference between the proof given by Larissa (my moma said, the EGC defines...), or the first-person testimony supplied by Nadia, and the proof that Vera has at the end?
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Hi.

Where is Annika's definition?

What defines Annika?


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DaDA wrote:
Hi.

Where is Annika's definition?

What defines Annika?


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"Annika is me."

So, with her, meaning in the dialogue is not (internally) dialectical. Annika is both writer and character. She is in this sense a curious object; like Bela, she is not an ordinary character. While Bela has no external reference, she is only the hear-say of the characters, Annika has a transcendence out of the script.... I have to think about this a little more...
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Vana wrote:

Where is Annika's definition?


: )
"Annika is me."

So, with her, meaning in the dialogue is not (internally) dialectical. Annika is both writer and character. She is in this sense a curious object; like Bela, she is not an ordinary character. While Bela has no external reference, she is only the hear-say of the characters, Annika has a transcendence out of the script.... I have to think about this a little more...
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So perhaps Annika is purely an observational point.
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