Schlickeiser said that magnetism can be produced naturally by the spin of atoms and subatomic particles. However, strong magnetism would not have happened in the infant universe because it requires heavy elements like nickel or iron that were produced only later inside stars.
Before the singularity unraveled there would be more than enough force and pressure to produce heavy metals, as the singularity would have to be under immense pressure!
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Schlickeiser thinks there was an extremely weak form of magnetism, created randomly
randomness causes only more randomness,
Jonathan Ainsley Bain :SPOCK: - Ship's physicist.
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Subject: Solar System Creator Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:44 am
Solar system A is the generally accepted theory, but it begs the question as to how the pre solar system mass started spinning.
Solar system C explains this process. The planetary mass is the remnant of the Sun’s twin which went nova sometime in the past. This describes the inherent spin, or uniform circularity of the orbits of the planets.
And yet outside the formation process itself, gravity easily sustains a disruptive influence on the system's ongoing uniformity (B & D). This suggests that there is an ongoing force keeping the system in a state of uniform circularity. The ongoing aspect of this force need only be tiny compared to gravity. It only need be strong enough to tip the scales in favor of one direction over another.
This relationship between spin and gravity is similar to the relationship between the wind and the coriolus force in weather formations. The coriolus force is very small relative to the force of the wind, but strong enough to form distinct spiraled patterns in weather formations such as hurricanes and tornadoes. Gravity has always had the ignoble position of being the weakest of the ‘known’ forces. Spin would have to be many times weaker. Speculatively: the entire universe is spinning in extra-dimensional space.
Alternatively, spin as a force may only be needed at the beginning of the formation of the universe. Either way, gravity is not enough on its own to form the existing structures in the visible universe. Gravity, however, is perhaps almost enough to sustain the observed celestial formations.
lavender orchid
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Subject: Re: Quotes of the day Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:21 pm
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This relationship between spin and gravity is similar to the relationship between the wind and the coriolus force in weather formations. The coriolus force is very small relative to the force of the wind, but strong enough to form distinct spiraled patterns in weather formations such as hurricanes and tornadoes. Gravity has always had the ignoble position of being the weakest of the ‘known’ forces. Spin would have to be many times weaker. Speculatively: the entire universe is spinning in extra-dimensional space.
if i may .... take liberty with some spin off thinking ....?
my mind is running off to uncle albert:
if god did not play dice, perhaps he'd prefer pool.
and sure someone must remember giving an accurate eye witness account?
Subject: Re: Quotes of the day Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:57 am
To play dice or to play billiards? How about chess?
On the macro-scale, its pure billiards, and Heisenberg saves us below the level of the electron, fortunately the brain/mind both rely on electrons.
But there is a fundamental difference between the physical three-dimensional world and the infinitely dimensioned realms of the minds.
So although the physical world is a game of billiards, our thoughts extend beyond the table and the billiard balls into the mystical world of electrons and minds.
http://flight-light-and-spin.com/why.htm
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The trinity of metaphysical concepts that are indivisible are: fate, chance and free will. In a universe without free will, questions themselves would not be possible. We can seek the unknown without knowing it in advance. If such questioning was determined, we could not be in a state of mystery about the question in the first place. Shakespeare said that the only question is: to be or not to be. I would like to clarify: The only question is: to ponder further or not. An answer has to be freely pursued, or else we would have such an answer implicitly within the question.
So, if everything were billiards (even billiards) then the game would be concluded in the same instant that it started as a system of 100% determinism could not be suspended in a state of being incomplete.
Logic is a crafty illusion. Consider:
Does nothing exist?
If it exists then it is not nothing, but if it does not exist then how can we use zero as a very real mathematical entity?
Either way, the answer degenerates into a fundamental contradiction, proving the universe to have a facade of logic above a fundamentally mystical imagination.
Even the billiards are not spherical but their electrons are manifest via a whimsical will.
So, in the tension between order and chaos, we are always struck by the essence of what IT is that unites this tension and suspends either answer as being fundamental, so THIS third element which unites order and chaos is fundamentally superior to both, OR we would never be able to even attempt to reconcile them.
Ta-dah!
lavender orchid
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Subject: Re: Quotes of the day Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:38 am
Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:42 am
This relationship between spin and gravity is similar to the relationship between the wind and the coriolus force in weather formations. The coriolus force is very small relative to the force of the wind, but strong enough to form distinct spiraled patterns in weather formations such as hurricanes and tornadoes. Gravity has always had the ignoble position of being the weakest of the ‘known’ forces. Spin would have to be many times weaker. Speculatively: the entire universe is spinning in extra-dimensional space.
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/where/index.html
check?
http://www.itu.dk/peoplekhhp/Konceptudvikling/e_of_p_revised.pdf 
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